Saturday 22 December 2012

Thoughts on Long Run via BST

(3 weeks ago)

The move to front-running Long Run only emphasizes the general point, although that can only be taken on trust once they line up.
It may help both horse and amateur jockey - the only thing to worry about from the front is getting the fractions right with no distractions. Most of his opposition are hardly going to be inclined to want to force it, in the way Nacarat always wanted to, and Kauto was out-the-ballpark good enough to.

Riverside is likely to sit second with his stamina now more in the confirmed box.

The reason i emphasize the 3m runs/form point is because at 2.5+ miles those in behind the front 2 are really going to start hurting. Providing there are no real thumping mistakes from Long Run that means they have to go into overdrive to overtake him at the very point where they're hurting the most because on paper they don't have the conditioning to stay well enough.

It's hard to envisage Long Run folding easily from 1st place because he always runs a very similar level of race.

Smaller field races aren't going to be much of a guide if they're going at LR's pace from the very start of the race - but that depends on SWC asking for no let-up at all on his mount and for LR to get into the kind of rhythm that saw him win it 2 years ago.

Lots of ifs, Kauto showed them how to do it last year though. 


 (19 days ago)

No change of gears definitely - he's one-paced absolutely no question.
Be very prominent/front-run - definitely, he finds it very hard to quicken at elite level pace.
Jockey - whatyagonnado aye

King George winner, Gold cup winner, dual Betfair Chase runner-up, Aon winner, King George runner-up, Gold Cup 3rd - for a horse aged 7 (and for any horse of any age) he has exceptionally strong form and sustained G1 3m top class ability.

Because of the nature of his extraordinary winning season he has since been assessed as if defeat is impossible: he must win every race to be a superstar and an unbeatable champion but that's not the M.O of the horse or necessarily the trainer: Long Run has been the victim of his own success. It points again to the sheer futility of "prices" in that because he's favourite he has to win and if he doesn't win he's not that good. Big Buck's puts that 'pressure' into perspective.

Here Sizing Europe is a fine example. A stunning Arkle winner but he was beaten all ends up in every single one of his starts after that until returning for the QMCC. That's not really very good at all is it? Some of them were by quite some way whereas LR very rarely gets beaten far (because he's actually got a really rare ability to sustain elite level 3m pace).

So yes Long Run has lost some battles. Last year he lost the races you highlight but what was going on? Was he ever really right. He got into an almighty war with one of the best racehorses of all time and got his ar$e handed to him fto as a result. Physically and mentally he was probably shot by that and, to boot, he was more than likely still progressing physically, or trying to. That's one hell of an ask and yet he still only went down narrowly in a KG managing to lunge at Kauto one last time too. It may have been his best effort to date all things considered?

Favourite for the King George: does he not have to be? Irrelevance of prices once more: were he 6 or 7/1+ everyone (nearly) would be saying that is "value": a crazy price for a KG winner & KG runner-up against a field with little 3m form. If anything one could say he 'should be' shorter but really it's all very pointless from an assessment p.o.v...


... The reaction to the Betfair Chase highlights some of the above. How on earth has he been beaten again, it's ridiculous, he's slow and not the horse he was.
I thought he looked the best he's ever been. I'm no expert on that, maybe he just had a shiny coat or something but he went through the race comfortably. If he's one-paced how can he possibly win a G1 slowly-run, stop-start affair against a horse who is in the form of his life, a superb 3m chaser and not far off favourite for the Gold Cup afterwards? Henderson had all but said they would tail him round without racing because of his hard race against Kauto last year. He's not been beaten far, what if Silvi wins the Gold Cup? How would the 2nd placing fto going easy look then?

Variety of thought.

Is the KG weaker? It might be. Didn't Al Ferof win a handicap in which only 6 finished? Should he be favourite? Should Cue Card be favourite, the buzzy Arkle runner-up that's never been 3m?

Then the race itself: it's a war, I think? I can't think of many "speed" horses winning a KG, Kicking King the last, but didn't he win a Gold Cup anyway, as Long Run has? Hell for leather from the off it's a brutal staying 3m like the World Hurdle where flashier, speedier, shorter-trip types get hurt badly and fade badly, that's assuming they're G1 class to start with.

Or is the race destined for the highest-rated chaser, the best 3m chaser in the race, a previous winner and runner-up of the race, a horse that can maintain 3m+ at one pace, elite pace?

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That's obv the pro LR bit but it seems to make a whole world of sense.

Unless the horse is just "gone". 


(17 days ago)

Whilst I like most agree it's not as if there needs to be a clock in his head, Long Run has elite level pace and stamina it's more that SWC has to do what Ruby did and not wait around if it's a bit of a dawdle. I'd think it was a no-brainer but if he's not thinking and waits 3 fences the race changes shape a bit..
Couldn't disagree more with HDB trying to push that SE is a 3m horse with no worries. Small field Graded races in Ireland are often muddling and he appeared not to stay in either attempt - ground can't be an excuse because he won a Tingle on deep ground.

There's also an assumption, myself included, that SE would have won the Champion Chase but for the final fence issue. Two things though: this confirms SE as a 2miler through and through and anything but a 3m stamina horse; and that level of form isn't necessarily red hot: Finian's struggled a bit until that day and had lost his Arkle before that. 


(16 days ago)

Is Nicholas Mordino's conclusion an example of the confusion surrounding LR's abilities?

He says Silvi Conti's (sectional) times in the Betfair indicate him winning 4 out of 5 gold cups.

Yet being just 2.5L behind Long Run has gotten slower and less agile as a result of sizeable physical growth over the last two seasons.

If Conti is that good - and I think he certainly is - how can LR be so negatively evaluated when he's so close to him in a race that they were taking a shade easy and which had no pace until Conti injected it tactically (causing The Giant Bolster no end of problems as he points out)?

Do hypotheticals help? Had Kauto been retired LR's form figures would have been 1113 last season.

Watched Riverside's Ascot win again and he didn't half move through it well. 


(3 days ago)

Cue Card is a very good G1 horse and a fast one too. Part of what makes him near top class, I think, is that he gives his all in his races. Exuberance at the start (over fences he has more or less led from the start in every race) and at the end: winning distances of 6L, 8L, 13L, 8L before fences and 3.5L, 4L (7L clear at the last) & 26L.

His jumping is adequate and not under scrutiny (needless) but he is far from foot perfect and makes enough mistakes for a horse with elite level pretensions.

Soft ground, it is reasonable to deduce, will have him in the red zone at the second last, if not before. Given his exuberance/determination to give everything, emptying the tank appears far more likely than running to the line. 


Good luck to all betting on the King George.

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